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<article article-type="research-article" dtd-version="1.3" xmlns:mml="http://www.w3.org/1998/Math/MathML" xmlns:xlink="http://www.w3.org/1999/xlink" xmlns:xsi="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema-instance" xml:lang="ru"><front><journal-meta><journal-id journal-id-type="publisher-id">socofpower</journal-id><journal-title-group><journal-title xml:lang="ru">Социология власти</journal-title><trans-title-group xml:lang="en"><trans-title>Sociology of Power</trans-title></trans-title-group></journal-title-group><issn pub-type="ppub">2074-0492</issn><issn pub-type="epub">2413-144X</issn><publisher><publisher-name>The Russian Presidential Academy of National Economy and Public Administration</publisher-name></publisher></journal-meta><article-meta><article-id pub-id-type="doi">10.22394/2074-0492-2021-4-198-216</article-id><article-id custom-type="elpub" pub-id-type="custom">socofpower-201</article-id><article-categories><subj-group subj-group-type="heading"><subject>Research Article</subject></subj-group><subj-group subj-group-type="section-heading" xml:lang="ru"><subject>СТАТЬИ</subject></subj-group><subj-group subj-group-type="section-heading" xml:lang="en"><subject>ARTICLES</subject></subj-group></article-categories><title-group><article-title>Безмолвный разговор: конструирование виртуаль- ного собеседника в образовательном вебинаре</article-title><trans-title-group xml:lang="en"><trans-title>Talking without a Voice: Virtual Co-Speakership in an Educational Webinar</trans-title></trans-title-group></title-group><contrib-group><contrib contrib-type="author" corresp="yes"><name-alternatives><name name-style="eastern" xml:lang="ru"><surname>Кимстач</surname><given-names>Ульяна М.</given-names></name><name name-style="western" xml:lang="en"><surname>Kimstach</surname><given-names>Uliana M. Kimstach М.</given-names></name></name-alternatives><bio xml:lang="ru"><p>бакалавр социологии, независимый исследователь</p></bio><bio xml:lang="en"><p>Independent Researcher</p></bio><email xlink:type="simple">catoneck@gmail.com</email></contrib><contrib contrib-type="author" corresp="yes"><contrib-id contrib-id-type="orcid">https://orcid.org/0000-0002-7347-099X</contrib-id><name-alternatives><name name-style="eastern" xml:lang="ru"><surname>Кловайт</surname><given-names>Нильс</given-names></name><name name-style="western" xml:lang="en"><surname>Klowait</surname><given-names>Nils</given-names></name></name-alternatives><bio xml:lang="ru"><p>научный сотрудник Центра перспективных социальныхисследований РАНХиГС</p></bio><bio xml:lang="en"><p>Research Fellow at the Center for Innovative Social Researchof the Russian Presidential Academy of National Economy and PublicAdministration (RANEPA</p></bio><email xlink:type="simple">nils.klowait@gmail.com</email><xref ref-type="aff" rid="aff-2"/></contrib><contrib contrib-type="author" corresp="yes"><contrib-id contrib-id-type="orcid">https://orcid.org/0000-0002-0874-5272</contrib-id><name-alternatives><name name-style="eastern" xml:lang="ru"><surname>Ерофеева</surname><given-names>Мария А.</given-names></name></name-alternatives><bio xml:lang="ru"><p>кандидат социологических наук</p></bio><email xlink:type="simple">erofeeva-ma@ranepa.ru</email><xref ref-type="aff" rid="aff-3"/></contrib></contrib-group><aff-alternatives id="aff-1"><aff xml:lang="ru">РАНХиГС<country>Россия</country></aff><aff xml:lang="en">RANEPA<country>Russian Federation</country></aff></aff-alternatives><aff-alternatives id="aff-2"><aff xml:lang="ru">РАНХиГС<country>Россия</country></aff></aff-alternatives><pub-date pub-type="collection"><year>2021</year></pub-date><pub-date pub-type="epub"><day>24</day><month>07</month><year>2025</year></pub-date><volume>33</volume><issue>4</issue><fpage>198</fpage><lpage>216</lpage><permissions><copyright-statement>Copyright &amp;#x00A9; Кимстач У.М., Кловайт Н., Ерофеева М.А., 2025</copyright-statement><copyright-year>2025</copyright-year><copyright-holder xml:lang="ru">Кимстач У.М., Кловайт Н., Ерофеева М.А.</copyright-holder><copyright-holder xml:lang="en">Kimstach U.М., Klowait N., Ерофеева М.А.</copyright-holder><license license-type="creative-commons-attribution" xlink:href="https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/" xlink:type="simple"><license-p>This work is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution 4.0 License.</license-p></license></permissions><self-uri xlink:href="https://socofpower.ranepa.ru/jour/article/view/201">https://socofpower.ranepa.ru/jour/article/view/201</self-uri><abstract><p>Пандемия интенсифицировала процессы «виртуализации» социальных отношений и взаимодействий. С точки зрения микросоциологии этот сдвиг означает переход от ситуации соприсутствия к телесоприсутствию, который имеет последствия для организации привычных практик, в частности обучения. В статье проводится мультимодальный анализ взаимодействия в рамках образовательного вебинара Московской службы психологической помощи населению. Исследуемый кейс характеризуется асимметрией интеракционных ресурсов участников: лектор может говорить, в то время как слушатели могут общаться только с помощью чата. Анализируемый фрагмент взаимодействия включает в себя смену курса действий лектора - переход от монолога к ответу на вопрос в чате. Из-за асимметрии интеракционных ресурсов единственный спикер вынужден организовывать чередование говорящих. Ключевой особенностью упомянутого перехода является самоперебивание, структурно напоминающее вербальное наложение. Диахронное сообщение в чате задействуется лектором как синхронная речь, что демонстрирует его ориентацию на виртуального собеседника. Таким образом, данный кейс показывает, как происходит передача череда безмолвному участнику. Наша работа вносит вклад в исследования образовательного взаимодействия, поскольку формат дистанционного обучения трансформирует привычные интеракционные феномены. Она открывает дискуссии о пересечении различных модальностей взаимодействия, о влиянии новых интеракционных экологий, таких как вебинары, на формы разговора, воплощения и поддержание локального социального порядка. Тем самым наша работа также вносит вклад в исследования, в которых подчеркивается активная роль «слушателя». Последняя выражается в ориентации единственного говорящего на высказывание безмолвного собеседника.</p></abstract><trans-abstract xml:lang="en"><p>The following paper analyzes the interactional shifts precipitated by the pandemic induced turn to telepresence. Using the framework of multimodal conversation analysis, we analyze a videorecording of a webinar organized by The Psychological Service of Moscow. In this specific case, webinar participants had unequally distributed interactional resources; only one participant was able to speak, while all other participants could only participate through a text-based chat. We focus on a change of the course of action where the instructor's monologic presentation transitions to a question-answer interaction. We highlight the way the single speaker organizes the transition from these structurally dissimilar participation frameworks. A key feature of the move from monologue to question-response is a self-initiated interruption: another participant's diachronic chat message is deployed as a synchronic overlap by orienting to a virtual second speaker. Thus, we document a case where one speaker chooses to give a voice to a voiceless participant. The work contributes to studies of educational interaction by providing insights on the work that goes into the transition between interactional formats in telemediated asymmetrical ecologies. Our work opens up discussions about the interfacing between different modalities as a locally emergent phenomenon, and how new interactional ecologies create a fertile substrate for hitherto unfamiliar forms of talking, embodiment, and local sequential ordering. The work thus also contributes to research that highlights the non-passive role of the 'listener', which is reflected in the active speaker's orientation to the listener's active contribution to ongoing talk.</p></trans-abstract><kwd-group xml:lang="ru"><kwd>телеконференции</kwd><kwd>исследования образовательного взаимодействия</kwd><kwd>телеприсутствие</kwd><kwd>мультимодальность</kwd><kwd>конверсационный анализ</kwd><kwd>ко-операционное действие</kwd><kwd>распределенный спикер</kwd><kwd>наложение</kwd></kwd-group><kwd-group xml:lang="en"><kwd>video-mediated communication</kwd><kwd>classroom interaction studies</kwd><kwd>telepresence</kwd><kwd>multimodality</kwd><kwd>conversation analysis</kwd><kwd>co-operative action</kwd><kwd>distributed speakership</kwd><kwd>overlap.</kwd></kwd-group></article-meta></front><back><ref-list><title>References</title><ref id="cit1"><label>1</label><citation-alternatives><mixed-citation xml:lang="ru">Clark H. H., Krych M. A. 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